Topic: What is Madness ?

[The Old Spirit]

WAS OUR Beloved PM crazy

In this article various definitions are played with.
for example: "He felt that the Prime Minister was using illogical arguments in his case for attacking Iraq and that he had a 'demented capacity to convince himself that it is the other guy who is cheating'."
Further:Brok thinks "if the weapons are not found, then Blair is a psychopath. (Another interpretation of course, would be that the Prime Minister simply got it wrong.)"
"Another journalist, Peter Dunn, from the New Statesman, likewise questioned Blair's sanity. After interviewing several psychiatrists and psychologists, he wrote that Blair displayed 'self-delusion on a heroic scale'. He added: 'He is one of the few politicians who has never told a lie because his belief in whatever he says... is total'."


what co mes out is that if madness is undefinable, which is to say, its literary rather then scientific.
that is outside the domain of psychology.
If true, then psychology is as good as dead.

[Sealchan]

If psychology is as good as dead, then we can't be having this conversation right now...

[The Old Spirit]

Yes thats exactly the problem , for example "conversation is derived from latin": "conversationem" which means, to "turn about with" where "vertere" means "having dealings with others"
Where as psychology comes from the latin "psychologia" which is derived from Greek. "psykhe" "breath" or speech and 'logia" means, to order, to move, to animate. (through our own breath, or understanding, or self animation)

The paradox implicit in conversation is that any subject independent grounds remain lacking.
That is when we say, "to study" some one, is also to bring what animates ones own into the forefront, that is one is locked in an perpetual cyclic narcism.

[Sealchan]

It is, perhaps, an act of faith each time we assume our own and other's conscious or self-conscious existence...like some persistent virtual-particle fantasy that simply would go away.